Helminthic therapy and fecal microbiota transplant (FMT)

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HThelminthic therapy and FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] can be complementary

A healthy microbiomeAll the microorganisms living in and on the body, or the genome of these microorganisms. "Microbiota" refers to the specific population of microorganisms living in a certain part of the body, such as the gut. These two terms are often used interchangeably. and a few helminthsAn intestinal worm which grows large enough to be seen with the naked eye when mature but which is microscopic when administered in helminthic therapy. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminths Wikipedia:Helminths] can complement each other to make their combination more effective than either one used alone.

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Our findings show that murine intestinal helminth infection not only alters the intestinal bacterial communities but that intestinal bacteria contribute to the ability of helminth infection to attenuate allergic airway inflammation. [1]

Reports from those who have used both therapies confirm that helminthic therapyThe reintroduction to the digestive tract of a controlled number of specially domesticated, mutualistic helminths (intestinal worms) in the form of microscopic eggs or larvae to reconstitute a depleted biome to treat and prevent chronic inflammation, autoimmune disease and other immunological disorders including allergy. (HThelminthic therapy) and faecal microbiota transplant (FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant]) are a very effective combination.

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I have Hashimoto's and some related symptoms: food intolerances, migraines, fatigue, poor endurance. Many of my symptoms are under control thanks to diet and FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant]. Using those modes of treatment my anti thyroid antibodies decreased to about 80-100, but whatever I did I could not decrease them further. Well, now, 4-5 months into TSOthe ova (eggs) of the porcine (pig) whipworm, Trichuris suis (and I’m probably taking too small dose of 700 ova) my antibodies test results came back at 58. It is not a huge improvement, but it is an improvement and they would not budge any other way, so I am very happy. I also feel better and stronger - subjectively. [2]

It may be best to start HThelminthic therapy and FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] separately

If intending to do both therapies, it can help to start them separately so that it will be easier to determine which is producing any benefits or side effects that appear.

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As someone who has done FMTs and just started on worms I suggest doing one thing at a time, at first anyway. This is so you can assess the benefits and side effects of each treatment. If you do both at once and some symptoms improve while you also get side effects you won't be able to tell the cause. [3]

Which to do first: HThelminthic therapy or FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant]?

A few people recommend starting with FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant].

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I did FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] first and I'm glad I did. my NAthe human hookworm, Necator americanus are part of the solution but could not have fixed my microbiotaThe specific population of microorganisms living in a certain part of the body, such as the gut. "Microbiome" refers to all the microorganisms living in and on the body, or the genome of these microorganisms. These two terms are often used interchangeably. deficits. [4]
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As a first step, I suggest doing one or a few FMTs in order to knock out any pathogenic bacteria you may have in your gut. That may also kick start rebuilding your gut flora. Then try some helminthsAn intestinal worm which grows large enough to be seen with the naked eye when mature but which is microscopic when administered in helminthic therapy. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminths Wikipedia:Helminths]. Give them several months to settle in and reduce inflammation. Then assess your situation and make an educated guess as to whether more FMTs and/or worms may help further. [5]

While the majority favour doing helminthic therapyThe reintroduction to the digestive tract of a controlled number of specially domesticated, mutualistic helminths (intestinal worms) in the form of microscopic eggs or larvae to reconstitute a depleted biome to treat and prevent chronic inflammation, autoimmune disease and other immunological disorders including allergy. first.

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HelminthsAn intestinal worm which grows large enough to be seen with the naked eye when mature but which is microscopic when administered in helminthic therapy. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminths Wikipedia:Helminths] reduce inflammation and secrete compounds that favour beneficial bacteria. Exactly what you need (besides a good diet) for the new bacteria to stick [6]
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I think doing the helminthsAn intestinal worm which grows large enough to be seen with the naked eye when mature but which is microscopic when administered in helminthic therapy. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminths Wikipedia:Helminths] first would increase the chances of having a successful FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant]. I did a series of FMTs a few years ago and had very little change in my condition, and I think I was too inflamed for it to take. [7]
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I had FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] for IBSIrritable bowel syndrome is a widespread condition involving recurrent abdominal pain and diarrhoea or constipation. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irritable_Bowel_Syndrome Wikipedia:Irritable Bowel Syndrome]/food intolerances 1½ years ago and I have to say it was no golden bullet… I have just started Helminthic therapyThe reintroduction to the digestive tract of a controlled number of specially domesticated, mutualistic helminths (intestinal worms) in the form of microscopic eggs or larvae to reconstitute a depleted biome to treat and prevent chronic inflammation, autoimmune disease and other immunological disorders including allergy. but looking back I would do the Helminthic therapyThe reintroduction to the digestive tract of a controlled number of specially domesticated, mutualistic helminths (intestinal worms) in the form of microscopic eggs or larvae to reconstitute a depleted biome to treat and prevent chronic inflammation, autoimmune disease and other immunological disorders including allergy. first as it is cheaper and depending on the root causes it may also be more effective… [8]
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I would definitely recommend commencing HThelminthic therapy before FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant]. I did FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] in August and inoculated with 5NA in September. I have been in a notable flare (Hashimoto's and Sjogren’s) since undergoing FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant]. So far, I'm tolerating the NAthe human hookworm, Necator americanus well… (Link expired)
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My argument for doing worms before FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] is that the side effects of the worms (diarrhea) might erase the newly acquired flora. [9]
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I would second the recommendation to try HThelminthic therapy first. (Link expired)
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I did FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] (5 months ago) -- just prior to HThelminthic therapy -- and I'm still flaring from the treatment... I wish I had commenced HThelminthic therapy first. [10]

And the following comment is from a paediatrician.

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… if somebody came in to me with recalcitrant Clostridium and nothing had worked… I would do FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] first. But if a child’s coming in with autoimmune disease or autism and that’s what they’re considering, I would do (HThelminthic therapy) hands down for months before I would even consider FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant]. [11]

FMTs from a helminthAn intestinal worm which grows large enough to be seen with the naked eye when mature but which is microscopic when administered in helminthic therapy. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminths Wikipedia:Helminths]-hosting donor may have an edge

It is possible that a fecal transplant from a healthy donor who is hosting helminthsAn intestinal worm which grows large enough to be seen with the naked eye when mature but which is microscopic when administered in helminthic therapy. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminths Wikipedia:Helminths] might have additional therapeutic potential as a result of the helminth components it will contain.

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The immuno-modulatory capacity of helminth infection could be transferred through fecal transplantation and correlated with an increased availability of microbial-derived short chain fatty acids (SCFAs). [12]

Further information

FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] websites

FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] support groups

  • FMT & Bacteriotherapy Discussion This is a secret Facebook group, so ask in the Helminthic Therapy Support group if any of your Facebook friends there are also members of the FMTFecal Microbiota Transplant. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant Wikipedia:Fecal microbiota transplant] & Bacteriotherapy Discussion, and can add you to it.
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